Solzhenitsyn - that's the one! I also think there was a Land Shark skit that had it too.
Yessss
have you ever been watching a show and suddenly, there's a reference to jehovah's witnesses?
i was watching an english mystery show from a while back and the main character hetty, was giving a list of religions that could have drawn off a young girl.
one of the "fringe" groups was tada - jehovah's witnesses.. there is plenty of other more well known clips like snl coneheads being approached by fake jw's.
Yessss
have you ever been watching a show and suddenly, there's a reference to jehovah's witnesses?
i was watching an english mystery show from a while back and the main character hetty, was giving a list of religions that could have drawn off a young girl.
one of the "fringe" groups was tada - jehovah's witnesses.. there is plenty of other more well known clips like snl coneheads being approached by fake jw's.
Have you ever been watching a show and suddenly, there's a reference to Jehovah's Witnesses? I was watching an English mystery show from a while back and the main character Hetty, was giving a list of religions that could have drawn off a young girl. One of the "fringe" groups was tada - Jehovah's Witnesses.
There is plenty of other more well known clips like SNL coneheads being approached by fake JW's. Have any more odd spots?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7KL8pro5I8
57:17
to me, breakfast can be served at any time of the day.
a local bar in my area serves breakfast all day long.
for 5 bucks you get 2 eggs any way you like, bacon sausage or ham with home fries and toast!!
Belgian waffles with bananas and walnuts.
i saw my mother today for the first time in three years..
she was on one of the witnessing carts in town at a station i don’t usually get off at.
i did today as i was dropping my daughter off somewhere.
It's a difficult thing especially with family members. i have to pretend not to notice my mom's tendency to be brusque at the beginning of a visit because she would so love to be "righteous". Since I don't react to her negatively she can only go along with the "niceness". Outright shunning hasn't happened but if it does, all I will do is shrug since she's the loser.
hello guys,.
long time no see.
the other day i went out with my sister.
Yeah, he wants to be able to show love to one of his own. Otherwise it's a polite but superficial smile.
watchtower's ignorance around the historical background to many biblical directives has had a very negative effect on the lives of witnesses.. for instance paul said women should cover their heads because in corinth prostitutes walked the streets plying for business with their heads uncovered.
hence head coverings were never a symbol of headship but a directive very specific to that period, as was the blood directive!!.
watchtower leaders have been lawyers, businessmen, civil servants and door-to-door book salesmen, never, ever historians or biblical scholars.
The WT and it's founders, like women to be in subjection. I don't think they would embrace your argument.
when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .
psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.
jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.
MrTheocracy - I am not a wild dog. Shouting with caps is rather ridiculous.
If someone broke into a kingdom hall and stole items, the police would be called. If someone in the hall steals a child's well being and mental health by molesting them - well instead of the police, they call the WT. And if there isn't another witness, too bad for the child and great for the molester.
See, you call the police because they can take fingerprints and collect evidence. They interview neighbors and take statements. They check databases for similar MO's to see if the crime is related to others. JW's use the police in these "mundane" matters. That doesn't happen for children.
As for the parents, many follow the WT's line of emotional reasoning that to report this to the police, would be to bring Jehovah's name in reproach. If you think that isn't true, then why is it from the example in Australia, those 1,000 plus cases of child sexual abuse were not reported?
And to say Well the WT doesn't hinder anyone from going to the police, they neither encourage it.
You didn't reply or comment on my earlier post about being responsible for the repeat offenders. I guess you had none.
when a person is guilty and worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven jesus said and if they are loosed or innocent it will already have been “loosed in heaven..in such judicial deliberations, jesus says, “where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.” .
psalm 127:3.. children are a sacred trust, “an inheritance from jehovah.
jws abhor child abuse and view it as a crime.its recognized that the authorities are responsible for addressing such crimes.jws do not shield any perpetrator of child abuse from the authorities as has been alleged.
Will Alex and MrTheocracy be like a great many of the Catholics that stayed with the church after the pedophile priests were revealed? People in the hall were shaking their heads in puzzlement when it first came out. How could those church goers stay with that corrupt religion?
Well, I'm sure there will be many excuses along the lines of "They are just imperfect men - Jehovah is cleaning house - those were just wolves in the congregations - they made mistakes..."
I just want to reiterate:
WT says - Cases of alleged abuse are reported to secular authorities if required by local laws - meaning if there isn't a law mandating this, they will not report.
or as instructed by the local branch office. - which is what they have been instructed to do for all these years. Call them first. No reporting to the police.
Alex wrote - Satan is an accuser ,he was that in heaven before his ouster and continues today while on the earth,with that said I'm not saying there were no mistakes made by imperfect men who handled sexual abuse but as a whole the organization is committed to feeding Christ sheep and caring for their needs as a loving Shepard entrusted with the feeding of his the Kings sheep.
At the Australian Royal Commission hearings, elders were questioned about how they handled cases of children being sexually abused. First they said, they called the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society to get advice. The advice they got, was articles that had been published in the literature - and that was read to them. At no time were they told to call the police.
The elders were asked, if they warned anyone about these pedophiles. No they did not.
Did they know that if you were in area that mandated police notification, that they could held accountable? One elder was quite taken aback when he realized that he could in trouble.
So did the WT instruct these elders to report to the police as required? No.
Pedophiles are often repeat offenders. If you research you will find that treatment to completely cure a person of this, is difficult if not impossible. There are therapies that try to help curb the desire. Look at the Catholic priests. Sent from one place to another and destroying more children's lives and their families.
So this principle applies to the WT: Exodus 21:29 But if a bull was in the habit of goring and it's owner had been warned but he would not keep it under guard and it killed a man or a woman, the bull should be stoned and its owner is also to be put to death.
Knowing that a person has committed this crime and it is not reported to the police, makes the elders and the WT responsible from then on. It allows this person to find other victims in the hall or out in the world, without authorities or parents knowing the danger.
Since we don't put people to death because of a bull, the next verses applies to the WT now. v30 If a ransom is imposed on him, he must give as a redemption price for his life all that may be imposed on him. v31 Whether it gored a son or a daughter, it is to be done to the bull's owner according to this judicial decision.
According to the bible, this is the justice for their negligence and failure to report to the authorities.
first of all, i'm not a conspiracy chaser.
personally, i've related with mason borothers alot and confirmed that jw.org is no more related with freemason after russsel who was never a member of freemasonry.. one of my friends again raised the questioning link between jw and freemason with the above picture.
specifically the letter a.... .
Oh My God! Maybe a freemason made the Font!
what would the outcome be among people at this site if we were able to conduct a poll on belief in evolution or in creation?.
what would the outcome be if at the same time we asked for religious affiliation (including formal, informal, or none)?
doug.
What about a different kind of creationism Vidiot? All the terrifying sea creatures, nasty blood suckers and horrible parasites don't have to be made by a "loving" creator. Just creator/creators. For whatever reason.
People themselves make up horrifying creatures and monsters just as bad or as worse. Yes of course they haven't made a real world but it does show the possibility of what something else could consider as part of a creation.
Just because most of the religions paint a "god" as being loving and perfect, it doesn't mean the "entities" are.